Chert rock is common in the "Edwards" geologic formation here in central Texas. A more common layman term is "flint". Chert is a rock (not a mineral) composed of microscopic quartz crystals (microcrystalline). Chert has a smooth surface and fractures with a conchoidal shape. Chert is found as nodules (subrounded mass) or layers of limited horizontal extent within limestone rock. Chert occurs in many colors such as white, yellow, red, brown, green, blue, gray, and black. The yellowish, red, and brown chert is commonly called "jasper", while the dark gray to black chert is commonly called "flint".
Sunday, March 31, 2013
Chert vs Flint
Chert rock is common in the "Edwards" geologic formation here in central Texas. A more common layman term is "flint". Chert is a rock (not a mineral) composed of microscopic quartz crystals (microcrystalline). Chert has a smooth surface and fractures with a conchoidal shape. Chert is found as nodules (subrounded mass) or layers of limited horizontal extent within limestone rock. Chert occurs in many colors such as white, yellow, red, brown, green, blue, gray, and black. The yellowish, red, and brown chert is commonly called "jasper", while the dark gray to black chert is commonly called "flint".
Saturday, February 9, 2013
Empirical evidence of catastrophic geology: Case 3
The Washington State scablands........Lake Missoula glacial dam breach and the massive flood and its geological effects.
J Harlen Bretz
And The Great Scabland Debate
Introduction
One of the most interesting debates in the history of geology has to do with the origins of the Channeled Scabland region in eastern Washington State – so named by J Harlen Bretz because of the region’s distinctive channels with intervening “scabs” of loess or soil covering the underlying basaltic rock. But how, exactly, were these channels and scabs formed? Were they formed over millions of years of time by process of erosion currently active in the region or were they formed by some other means?
By the time of the early twentieth century, the most prominent scientists of the day were decidedly “uniformitarian” in their thinking.1,2 That is, they believed that the regular observed processes of usual geologic events acting over vast periods of time were able to explain most if not all of the observed geologic record. J Harlen Bretz, who earned his Ph.D. in geology from the University of Chicago, was the first geologist to seriously challenge this notion, but it was by no means an easy. The process to change the prevailing dogma of the day was a tremendous struggle for Bretz despite his use of a great deal of very good evidence – and that is what is most interesting about this story.
The Evidence for a Catastrophic Flood
Many people think that scientists are dispassionate in their investigations, conclusions and their general search for truth. As we will soon discover, most scientists have always been very passionate people who, just like most of the rest of us, do not like to admit a long-held error even in the face of otherwise overwhelming evidence.
Bretz’s interest in the Scablands was first aroused in 1910 by the newly published Quincy topography map of the area. This map clearly revealed great potholes now known as the Potholes Cataract. During this same year, Joseph Thomas Pardee published a paper describing the geomorphological evidence for a great glacial lake occupying the intermountain basins of western Montana during the late Pleistocene. He described the prominent horizontal shorelines or “strandlines” previously noted by T. C. Chamberlin. This lake, which was to eventually play a prominent role in this story, was named for Missoula Montana, where its strandlines were particularly prominent. 2
Bretz began the field research of the Scablands in 1922 with the help of a few advanced geology students. He continued these summer outings over the course of seven years, traveling largely byfoot. What he saw was truly remarkable. For example, the cliffs of Dry Falls are 3.5 miles wide and drop some 400 to 600 vertical feet.1,4 By comparison, Niagara Falls is only a measly 1.5 miles wide and drops just 165 vertical feet. Bretz took note of the very steep sides of the channels and their relatively straight pathways as well as the presence of very large gravel bars deposited by water. Also, throughout the scablands Bretz saw huge islands of land protruding from the surrounding landscape with streamlined features as if they were carved by massive torrents of water. 2
Bretz first presented his initial observations in 1923 to the Geological Society of America. In that first paper he simply described what he saw on his various field trips. He deliberately took special care not to present any sort of explanation or interpretation for his observations. He did note, however, that the observed channel erosion required large non-specified quantities of water. On the other hand, in his second 1923 paper Bretz decided to stir up his fellow geologists just a little bit. In the second paper Bretz presented his theory that a truly huge catastrophic flood was in fact the creator of the most prominent features of the Scabland region. 2
Uniformitarian Bias Blinds Scientists
Of course this conclusion was less than enthusiastically received by Bretz’s fellow geologists. In fact, Bretz was openly and vigorously ridiculed for presenting such a ludicrous notion as a flood model for the scablands since this region had obviously been carved out over millions of years by uniformitarian processes. In support of this derision, Pardee’s brief 1922 paper concerning the scabland region near Spokane, Washington (the Cheney-Palouse Scabland Tract) was used to discredit Bretz. In that paper Pardee proposed that unusual glaciation, acting over very long periods of time, created the Scablands.
However, when Bretz went to visit this area a couple years later he found that Pardee’s “glacial” deposits were actually flood bars. What is even more interesting is that, after hearing of Bretz’s ideas, Pardee seemed to change his mind. He actually wrote to Bretz in 1925 suggesting that Bretz consider the draining of a glacial lake as a possible source for his suggested cataclysmic flood. In reference to this communication, Bretz wrote the following to J. C. Merriam:
Mr. Pardee of the Federal Survey, who has seen much of the scablands, has suggested that his glacial Lake Missoula might have afforded the water for these enormous rivers if it were suddenly drained out across the plateau. This comment indicates that his former view of the scablands by land ice and concomitant subglacial drainage under ordinary climatic melting has been abandoned. Even our ultraconservative in Pleistocene geology, Dr. Alden, wrote that the phenomena I describe certainly appear to be river work “if you could only show where all the water came from in so short a time.” 2
Later, in a 1943 correspondence with Hobbs, Pardee himself wrote:
The “drift” referred to in the article Science consists of bouldery deposits which at that time (1922) I interpreted as a gravelly till transported and deposited by glaciers that extended far over the Columbia Plateau. The principal feature of the deposits that suggests glacial action is the presence of large boulder, some of them of foreign origin. From information of the region that has been made available since 1922, however, I have concluded that the deposits are more likely the work of flood waters, such as postulated by Bretz, rather than of glacial ice. That is — I do not regard them as conclusive evidence of glaciation. On the other hand the deposits are indirectly, if not directly, related to glaciation and may have been formed by streams that gouged out the channels and basins under an ice cover as you suggest.2
Sometime before 1927 geologists were catching on to the seriousness of what Bretz was suggesting. If true, Bretz’s theory would undermine the very foundation of Uniformitarianism. Just as anticipated, the general outcry against any hint of a catastrophic model was very loud indeed. In fact, there was a very strong desire to publicly discredit and humiliate Bretz. So, to this purpose, Bretz was asked to present his ideas in public forum to the Geological Society of Washington. Bretz himself was rather unaware of the underlying purpose of this gathering or just how hostile his audience actually was to his ideas. Unawares to Bretz, six “challenging elders”, as Bretz later referred to them, were chosen to counter Bretz’s claims and beat him in public debate.6
As Long as it’s Not Noah’s Flood
Bretz Vindicated
Bretz’s remarkable work was built painstakingly over many years, but he had to fight great opposition for many decades for its final acceptance. Finally, in 1979, the geological establishment publicly acknowledged Bretz’s work by awarding him the prestigious Penrose Medal – the most prestigious honor in the field of geology.3 Bretz was in his late 90s, and had been holding the line for more than 50 years before finally realizing general acceptance of his “insane” catastrophic model for the formation of the Channeled Scablands of eastern Washington State.
References
- Allen, J. E., Burns, M., Sargent, S. C., Cataclysms on The Columbia, Timber Press, (1986),Samuel Strok book review for Geology 103 at Bellevue Community College – Winter, 2003 (http://scidiv.bcc.ctc.edu/rv/103/reviews/docs/Strok.ncl )
- Baker, V., Joseph Thomas Pardee and the Spokane Flood Controversy, GSA Today, 5:(9), September 1995 (http://gsahist.org/gsat2/pardee.htm )
- Helfferich, C., Boulders, Braids, and J Harlen Bretz, Alaska Science Forum, Article #1160, November 17, 1993 ( http://www.gi.alaska.edu/ScienceForum/ASF11/1160.html )
- Spokane Astronomical Society, 1998 (http://www.webmaker-nw.com/bustomars/mars-dry-falls-1.html )
- Kids Cosmos, 2001 (http://www.kidscosmos.org/kid-stuff/mars-trip-scablands.html )
- Newman, J., Missoula Floods, Oregon Field Guide, Episode 1001, 2002-2004 (http://www.opb.org/programs/ofg/episodes/1001/missoula/index.php )
Friday, February 8, 2013
Empirical evidence of catastrop. geology: Case 2
Mount Saint Helens is an active volcano in Washington State. A series of eruptions began in 1980 when a large landslide and powerful explosive eruption created a large crater, and ended 6 years later after more than a dozen extrusions of lava built a dome in the crater. Larger, longer lasting eruptions appear to have occurred in the past and are likely to occur in the future. Although the volcano seems to have returned to a period of quiet, scientists closely monitor Mount St. Helens for signs of renewed activity.
The first sign of activity at Mount St. Helens was a series of small earthquakes that began on March 16 1980. After hundreds of additional earthquakes, a steam explosion on March 27 blasted a crater through the volcano's ice capped summit. Within a week the crater had grown to about 1,300 feet in diameter and two giant crack systems crossed the entire summit area. By May 17, more than 10,000 earthquakes had shaken the volcano and the north flank had grown outward at least 450 feet to form a noticeable bulge. Such dramatic deformation of the volcano was strong evidence that molten rock (magma) had risen high into the volcano.
On May 18, 1980 at 8:32 a.m., a magnitude 5.1 earthquake caused the volcano's bulge and summit to break away in a huge landslide - the largest in recorded history. The landslide depressurized the volcano's magma system, triggering powerful explosions that ripped through the sliding debris. Rocks, ash, volcanic gas, and steam were blasted upward and outward to the north. This lateral blast of hot material accelerated to at least 300 miles per hour, then slowed as the rocks and ash fell to the ground and spread away from the volcano; several people escaping the blast on its western edge were able to keep ahead of the advancing cloud by driving 65 to 100 miles an hour! The blast cloud traveled as far as 17 miles northward from the volcano and the landslide traveled about 14 miles west, down the North Fork Toutle River.
The lateral blast produced a column of ash and gas (eruption column) that rose more than 15 miles into the atmosphere in only 15 minutes. Less than an hour later, a second eruption column formed as magma erupted explosively from the new crater. Then, beginning just after noon, swift avalanches of hot ash, pumice, and gas (pyroclastic flows) poured out of the crater at 50 to 80 miles per hour and spread as far as 5 miles to the north. Based on the eruption rate of these pyroclastic flows, scientists estimate that the eruption reached its peak between 3:00 and 5:00 p.m. Over the course of the day, prevailing winds blew 520 million tons of ash eastward across the United States and caused complete darkness in Spokane, Washington, 250 miles from the volcano.
During the first few minutes of this eruption, parts of the blast cloud surged over the newly formed crater rim and down the west, south, and east sides of the volcano. The hot rocks and gas quickly melted some of the snow and ice capping the volcano, creating surges of water that eroded and mixed with loose rock debris to form volcanic mudflows (lahars). Several lahars poured down the volcano into river valleys, ripping trees from their roots and destroying roads and bridges. The largest and most destructive lahar was formed by water seeping from inside the huge landslide deposit through most of the day. This sustained flow of water eroded material from both the landslide deposit and channel of the North Fork Toutle River. The lahar increased in size as it traveled downstream, destroying bridges and homes and eventually flowing into the Cowlitz River. It reached its maximum size at about midnight in the Cowlitz River about 50 miles downstream from the volcano.
A 320 ft thick deposit was laid at the bottom of Spirit Lake due to the eruption and the flooding caused by the main rockslide debris that displaced the water, creating huge waves that scoured the basin and created the thick deposit (Meyer, W. and P. J. Carpenter. 1983. Filling of Spirit Lake, Washington. U.S. Geological Survey Open File Report 82-771).
Stratified layers up to 400 feet thick formed as a result of landslides, pyroclastic flows, , etc., during the Mt. St. Helens eruption. Fine laminae from only a millimeter thick to layers more than a meter high formed in just a few seconds each. A deposit more than 25 feet in thickness, and containing upwards of 100 thin layers accumulated in just one day on June 12, 1980.
Rapid erosion was caused by mudflows, landslides, and waves of water. On March 19, 1982, a small eruption melted the snow that had accumulated in the crater over the winter, and a resulting hot mud flow carved a system of canyons up to 140 feet deep and 17 miles long in a single day. The deepest of the canyons has affectionately been called the "Little Grand Canyon" of the Toutle River. The small creek that now flows through the bottom would appear to have carved this canyon over a great length of time, but this unique event has demonstrated that rapid catastrophic processes were instead responsible. The picture to the right above shows a 100-ft deep canyon carved into the pumice plain by August 1984. I think the photo is by Steven A. Austin (geologist).
One prominent fast erosion feature is Loowit Falls. Loowit Falls is one of two major waterfalls that occurs along the the north flank of Mount St. Helens. When the mountain erupted in 1980, it created a catchment basin in the resulting crater. Beginning in the winter of 1980-1981 the Crater Glacier began to form and is currently the largest glacier on Mount St. Helens, as well as the youngest and fastest growing glacier in the United States. Once the glacier began growing, it also began melting and its meltwater has channeled largely into what is now Loowit Creek. Mt Saint Helens receives 183 inches of rain and snow each year (wet climate). As Loowit Creek intersects the blasted out north slope of the mountain it carved out the rugged Loowit Canyon, with Loowit Falls found at its head. National Geographic in May 2000 stated "Spilling from the crater, Loowit Falls reshapes the north slope of the volcano. You would expect a hardrock canyon to be thousands even 100's of thousands of years old, but this was cut in less than a decade. Loowit Canyon formed in a matter of about 15 years and over that time Loowit Falls has constantly changed in appearance. When surveyed in 2011 the waterfall cut stood 186 feet tall. Imagery available in Google Earth shows the brink of Loowit Falls has retreated upstream by 40 feet since 1994. Some time between 2006 and 2009 a smaller but significant lower tier of the falls was buried almost entirely by a landslide and over the years there has been an increase in rockfall debris collecting at the base of Loowit Falls. Loowit Canyon is incredibly unstable and the height and appearance of the falls will continue to change in the coming decades. The falls have existed only since 1981 and with the rapid advance of the Crater Glacier there is a possibility that the stream may either be diverted or the glacier may even cover the falls and spill into Loowit Canyon at some point. Loowit Canyon is over 100 feet deep and was gouged in part through old hard volcanic rock (andesite). This rock was not eroded over millions of years, mudflows eroded the canyon in just a few months in 1980.
Pumice (relatively porous, low density, lightweight rock formed from volcanic flow) is relatively more erodible than other rock types, but is not soil, so the erosion rate from recent water flow and the catastrophic erosion from the mudflows (lahars) is still impressive.
Thursday, September 20, 2012
Empirical evidence of catastrophic geology: Case 1
In 2002, Canyon Lake (man-made lake north of San Antonio, NW of New Braunfels) flooded after the watershed feeding the lake was subjected to 35 inches of rain in one week. The embankment dam has a wide emergency spillway that did its job and concentrated the overflow to a certain area of the embankment and its downstream target area. In just 3 days, the flood waters carved a canyon 1.5 miles long and up to 80 feet deep. The waters did not erode massive soil deposits, they cut through a limestone rock formation ! The geology in this area consists of materials of the Glen Rose geologic formation, that consists of inter-bedded limestone rock, marly limestone, nodular limestone, weak limestone, and rocky clay-marl. Although the marly materials are relativley erodible, the rock layers are not.Here is a photo during the flooding as it carved through a road crossing (South Access Road):
Someone considering only uniformitarian geology concepts might typically believe canyons and gorges are formed by rivers slowly eroding the landscape over "millions of years". The Canyon Lake gorge is one of many examples of empirical evidence that this is not the case. At the deepest cut this 3 day localized flood carved out up to 80 feet deep inter-bedded limestone materials. Are canyons formed by baseline flow river water over a long period of time, or a lot of flood water over a short period of time? Evidence before us indicates the latter actually occurs. The former is hypothesized and not empirical.
Here is another photo of the gorge carved in 3 days:
Here is one exposing faulting and also exposing boulder deposits (left):
Here is a close up of the boulder deposits that were placed during the 3 day flood event:
And here is another view of the eroded gorge.
Thursday, August 30, 2012
Texas Geologic Physiographic Provinces

Texas geology is best categorized by starting with the largest area distinctions known as the physiographic provinces. This map shows you the provinces.
The Gulf Coastal Plains (red, orange and yellow) are composed of massive sedimentary deposits.
In uniformitarian (atheists and long-age creationists/agnostics) geology terms these deposits are "Quaternary" and "Tertiary" age ("Cenozoic"). For creationist geologists these include recent age sedimentary deposits (post primary catastrophic events / post ice age) but otherwise predominantly deeper sedimentary deposits of either the initial catastrophic period (eruptive to dispersive phases of the catastrophic flood period - aka "Noah's" flood and meteor/asteroid impacts; the "eruptive" to "dispersive" phases can be seen in the Tas Walker geologic model) or the post-flood catastrophic events as described by others (e.g. the Steven Robinson model).
In uniformitarian (atheists and long-age creationists/agnostics) geology terms these deposits are "Quaternary" and "Tertiary" age ("Cenozoic"). For creationist geologists these include recent age sedimentary deposits (post primary catastrophic events / post ice age) but otherwise predominantly deeper sedimentary deposits of either the initial catastrophic period (eruptive to dispersive phases of the catastrophic flood period - aka "Noah's" flood and meteor/asteroid impacts; the "eruptive" to "dispersive" phases can be seen in the Tas Walker geologic model) or the post-flood catastrophic events as described by others (e.g. the Steven Robinson model).
The Central Texas Uplift (purple) consists of a mound of igneous (ie granite) and metamorphic rock (ie schist; gneiss) surrounded by sedimentary deposits. These rocks are categorized as "Precambrian" to "Cambrian" (early "Paleozoic") formations (i.e. original continental crustal bedrock).
The Edwards Plateau (green) consists of massive hardened sedimentary deposits (rock) and includes a cavernous (cave forming) zone within the formation known as the "Edwards Limestone" formation. The Grand Prairie province (brown; Ft Worth area) also consists of sedimentary rocks similar to those found in the Edwards Plateau. The Edwards Plateau deposits are categorized as "Mesozoic" age (triassic, jurassic, cretaceous) in the uniformitarian model, or inundation phase of one of the catastrophic models.
The Basin and Range province (brown) includes volcanic mountains and sedimentary rock. Large flows of volcanic ash and thick deposits of volcanic debris flank the slopes of most former volcanoes. There is no current measurable seismic activity in this region. Eroded craters exist where cores of volcanoes collapsed.
The High Plains (pale brown) consist of recent age and older sedimentary soils and rock that are categorized as "Cenozoic" and "Mesozoic" in the uniformitarian model, or inundatory, recessive, and post ice-age phases of the catastrophic (creationist) models.
The North Central Plains (blue) consist of sedimentary deposits also known as "Permian" rocks. Some recent age deposits are identified but the materials are mostly categorized as "Paleozoic" age in the uniformitarian model, or biotic phase of creationist model.
The political boundary or county boundary map used by geologists and the oil and gas industry is presented below and is different:
The political boundary or county boundary map used by geologists and the oil and gas industry is presented below and is different:
Saturday, June 23, 2012
Perspective by Dr. David Stone
The creation vs evolution debate unfortunately has a direct impact on our notions of geologic history, so it has to be included in any discussion of the geologic history of Texas and of the planet. Unlike geologic processes that can be observed and quantified today, historical geology is another matter. Dr. David Stone was chairman of the Dept. of Electrical and Computer Engineering at Michigan Tech, was a professor of laser physics, engineering, and electromagnetics, and earned his PhD in Mechanical Engineering from Michigan State. He also served in the Air Force in a research program and worked for Lockheed Martin. In a recent interview with Creation Ministries International he offered the following insights:
"My work in statistical physics and engineering design connects with the question of the origin of the nano-machines of life. Scientists are careful with use of the word 'impossible', but I will state categorically that it is impossible for any protein, not to mention the larger structures inside the cell or the cell itself, to arise by undirected chemical processes. [consider the complexity of biochemical systems, and compare to the difficult process required by man to design even simple functioning electrical systems, and we can discern that intelligence is involved]. God's designs are so intriate and efficient that biochemists find it difficult even to sketch the structure of some basic bio-tools such as enzymes. Perhaps the most useful and painful lesson our brightest engineering students learned in our design course was just how incredibly difficult it is to design, build, test, prototype, and produce ANY useful electrical or mechanical system that actually works. Once a good design concept is on the table, painstaking calculations and relentless prototyping and testing, while suffering failure after failure, are inevitably on the path to a successful product. Anyone proposing a design approach equivalent to mutations, natural selection, and infinite time would be laughed at. [Consider as an example] laser technology [it] is the designed application of God's physical laws. [...] If evolutionary biologists would take an engineering design course - and pass it - they might get worried about their Darwinian faith."
"My work in statistical physics and engineering design connects with the question of the origin of the nano-machines of life. Scientists are careful with use of the word 'impossible', but I will state categorically that it is impossible for any protein, not to mention the larger structures inside the cell or the cell itself, to arise by undirected chemical processes. [consider the complexity of biochemical systems, and compare to the difficult process required by man to design even simple functioning electrical systems, and we can discern that intelligence is involved]. God's designs are so intriate and efficient that biochemists find it difficult even to sketch the structure of some basic bio-tools such as enzymes. Perhaps the most useful and painful lesson our brightest engineering students learned in our design course was just how incredibly difficult it is to design, build, test, prototype, and produce ANY useful electrical or mechanical system that actually works. Once a good design concept is on the table, painstaking calculations and relentless prototyping and testing, while suffering failure after failure, are inevitably on the path to a successful product. Anyone proposing a design approach equivalent to mutations, natural selection, and infinite time would be laughed at. [Consider as an example] laser technology [it] is the designed application of God's physical laws. [...] If evolutionary biologists would take an engineering design course - and pass it - they might get worried about their Darwinian faith."
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